debate, where with hillary clinton, when her competitor was running for the senate, crossed the stage in a physical image of intimidation. i think the viewers will be looking at the two candidates of who they are, who they are as men. are they comfortable in their own skin? are they commanding? do they project leadership and confidence? all of these things play. people who listen to the nixon-kennedy debate, they thought nixon won. people who watched it on tv, they thought it went to jfk. >> obviously those famous mom t moments -- maria wlamaria, what think? >> you pointed to a famous moment that didn't do anything to fix the outcome of the campaign, so while there could be those moments onstage, it's really up to the voters whether those moments are going to become game-changing for the campaign itself. and let's be honest here. both candidates are going to be very well prepared. both candidates have tremendous strengths going into this. both candidates are going to be well-versed on the other's record. they've had tremendous policy briefings. they're going to be holed up for two or
